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Wednesday, April 9, 2008

Gap Between Fantasy And Reality

Today we have still more evidence of the enormous gap between:

(a) public opinion regarding whether we should withdraw from Iraq and
(b) claims by the political and media establishment about public opinion on that question.


A newly released Gallup poll asked this question, the central question -- really the only relevant question -- regarding what we should do about Iraq:

If you had to choose, which do you think is better for the U.S. -- to keep a
significant number of troops in Iraq until the situation gets better, even if
that takes many years, or to set a timetable for removing troops from Iraq and
to stick to that timetable regardless of what is going on in Iraq?

Here is the answer, consistent with virtually every other poll that has asked the same question for many, many months:

SET TIMETABLE FOR WITHDRAWL


All Americans - 60%

Democrats - 81%

Republicans - 32%

Independents - 61%


KEEP TROOPS IN IRAQ UNTIL SITUATION IMPROVES


All Americans - 35%

Democrats - 15%

Republicans - 65%

Independents - 32%

The reason why this is the central question is because it describes the two sides of the mainstream political debate. Keeping troops in Iraq until the situation is better, no matter how long it takes, is the Bush/McCain position. Setting a timetable for withdrawal and adhering to it regardless of what is happening there -- i.e., regardless of whether things are better or we're "winning" or "losing" -- is, roughly speaking, the view of the Democratic presidential candidates and, even more so, the defining premise of the Responsible Plan to End the War in Iraq sponsored by 42 Democratic Congressional candidates.

American public opinion isn't "divided" or "split" on this question. There are no pro-war trends here that signal the Iraq War is about to become a huge asset for the McCain campaign. Nor are any of the other cliches used repeatedly by the establishment press to claim that unconditional withdrawal is a politically unpopular position even remotely true.

To the contrary, Americans overwhelmingly favor unconditional withdrawal and it's not even close. They favor that by a 25-point margin, and it's a 29-point margin among independents. Those are huge margins. Very few public policy questions of any significance produce margins that large. And the whole point of asking the question this way -- do you favor withdrawal "regardless of what is going on in Iraq?" -- is to exclude the excuse made by John McCain, The Politico and Cokie Roberts that Americans only want to withdraw once we've "won" or once we've created a peaceful democracy there.

For many reasons, the pro-war political establishment doesn't want to leave Iraq. That's fine. They're entitled to that opinion. But Americans overwhelmingly reject that view. All evidence conclusively demonstrates that. While there are mild differences as to the amount of time the timetables should allow, Americans want, by large margins, to set a timetable to withdraw from Iraq unconditionally -- not if we're winning, not if things are improved, not if we've created a stable democracy, but regardless of those issues. War advocates who keep saying otherwise are just spouting factually false -- and profoundly anti-democratic -- propaganda.

ORIGINALLY POSTED HERE

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

I'd be so bummed out if I was paying for this war.

The only way it is going to end is when Americans decide to quit paying for it.

I'm not proposing anyone risk their home or way of life, I'm just asking all Americans to do what I have done.

Quit paying for the war.

Ask your employer to stop withholding Federal Income taxes from your paycheck. If your nervous about getting in trouble with the IRS (which you shouldn't be) put the money aside and give it to the government on April 15, 2009.

If 12% of Americans do this, the war will come to a screeching halt.


Liberals got women the right to vote.

Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote.

Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty.

Liberals ended segregation.

Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

Liberals created Medicare.

Liberals passed the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act.

What did the ignorant conservatives do?

They opposed them on every one of those things.

Every damn one!

So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor.